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 Post subject: Vintage Basketball Association - a solo league from 1970
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:26 am 
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<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Vintage Basketball Association (VBA)</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> is a semi-fictional league composed of 28 real teams in 1970 (16 from NBA and 12 from ABA), plus 1 expansion team (San Diego Conquistadors) which would join the then ABA in 1972 is added to fill up the league. In the off-season period, a real draft class starting from 1971 would be imported, and the salary cap is 25.5M, where 0.5M would be added after each season.<br><br>I've choose the sole expansion team, or the Q's so as to build from rough. Similar to my previous attempt, several house rules are set to enhance the game playing. First, only even or slightly advantaged trades could be made (2-1, 3-2, 4-3 etc., 1st round pick equals 2 and 2nd round pick equals 1). Second, free agent could only be signed while I really need one, i.e. I've less than 12 healthy players. Third, C can play C and PF, PF can play C, PF and SF, SF can play PF,SF and SG, SG can play SF, SG and PG, and PG can play SG and PG, where starters could occupy not more than one space in the depth chart, and backups could occupy not more than two space. Finally, only one offer could be made in each free agent signing round, except mid-level and low-level exceptions offers. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub123.ezboard.com/bfastbreakbasketballmessageboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=honny118>Honny118</A> at: 6/13/03 12:30 am<br></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Vintage Basketball Association - a solo league from 1970
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:42 am 
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Below is the team alignment:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Eastern Conference-</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Atlantic Division:</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>Boston Celtics (NBA), The Floridians (ABA), New Yorks Nets (ABA), New York Knicks (NBA), Buffalo Braves (NBA), Philadelphia 76ers (NBA), Virginia Squires (ABA).<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Central Division:</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>Atlanta Hawks (NBA), Carolina Cougars (ABA), Chicago Bulls (NBA), Cleveland Cavaliers (NBA), Detroit Pistons (NBA), Baltimore Bullets (NBA), Kentucky Colonels (ABA), Pittsburgh Condors (ABA).<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Western Conference-</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Midwest Division:</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>Cincinnati Royals (NBA), Denver Rockets (ABA), Indiana Pacers (ABA), Milwaukee Bucks (NBA), Texas Chaparrals (ABA), Utah Stars (ABA), Memphis Pros (ABA).<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Pacific Division:</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>San Francisco Warriors (NBA), San Diego Conquistadors (expansion team, ABA), Los Angeles Lakers (NBA), Phoenix Suns (NBA), Portland Trail Blazers (NBA), San Diego Rockets (NBA), Seattle SuperSonics (NBA).<br><br>As I mentioned before, The San Diego Conquistadors, or Q's, is the controlled team, my goal is quite ambitious, I WANT TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS IN 5 YEARS, otherwise I'll choose the worst team in the 1974-75 season for coaching. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub123.ezboard.com/bfastbreakbasketballmessageboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=honny118>Honny118</A> at: 6/13/03 12:32 am<br></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Vintage Basketball Association - a solo league from 1970
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:53 am 
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And here's the expansion draft, which I hope is my first step to success. The rule is fairly simple: each team with 12 or more players would not loss more than one player which is unused in any position in the depth chart in the expansion draft. Under this rule, 52 players from 14 teams are eligible for the draft (bolded players are selected by the Q's):<br><br>Floridians:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PF Greg Wittman, 23, 6'8", 210, C+, D, F+, C, C, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SF Dennis Stewart, 23, 6'6", 220, C, D+, D,-, C, C, C<br>SG Clarence Brookins, 24, 6'4", 190, C+, D-, D-, C, C-, C<br>SG Ron Nelson, 24, 6'2", 175, C, C-, D+, C-, D+, C<br>PG Fran O'Hanlon, 22, 6'1", 175, C, D, C-, C, D, C<br><br>Knicks:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>SG Mike Riordan, 25, 6'4", 200, C+, C, C-, A-, C-, A</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SG Mike Price, 22, 6'3", 200, C, C-, D, C-, D+, C<br>PG Milt Williams, 25, 6'2", 185, C, D, C-, C+, D-, C<br><br>Braves:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PF Nate Bowman, 27, 6'10", 230, C+, D, D, C, B, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SF Mike Silliman, 26, 6'6", 225, C+, D, D, C, C, C<br>SF Mike Lynn, 25, 6'5", 215, C, D, D-, C, D+, C<br>PG Paul Long, 26, 6'2", 180, C, C, C-, C, D+, C<br><br>76ers:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PF Al Henry, 21, 6'9", 190, C, D, F+, C, C, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SF Bud Odgen, 24, 6'6", 215, C, C-, D, C, C-, C<br>SG Cliff Anderson, 26, 6'5", 200, C+, C-, D+, C, C-, C<br><br>Cougars:<br>PF Gene Kluttz, 25, 6'7", 200, C, D, F+, C, C, C<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>SF Vann Williford, 22, 6'6", 195, C, D+, D, C, C, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>PG Mack Daughtry, 23, 6'3", 175, C, D, D+, C, D-, C<br><br>Bullets:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>SG Eddie Miles, 30, 6'4", 195, C+, B, C-, C-, C-, B</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SG Gary Zeller, 23, 6'3", 205, C+, D+, D-, C, D+, C<br><br>Colonels:<br>PF Dennis Hamilton, 26, 6'8", 210, C, D, D-, C, C-, C<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>SF Al Williams, 22, 6'6", 210, C+, D, D, C, C, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SG Tom Hagan, 23, 6'4", 185, C, C, C, C-, C-, C<br>SG Howard Wright, 23, 6'3", 185, C, C, C-, C, C-, C<br><br>Condors:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PF Walter Banks, 23, 6'10", 205, C+, D-, D-, C, C+, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SG Sam Watts, 22, 6'3", 185, C, C, D+, C-, C, C<br>SG Arvesta Kelly, 25, 6'3", 195, C+, D+, D, C, D+, C<br>SG Hubie White, 30, 6'4", 205, C, C, D, C, C-, C<br><br>Royals:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>SF Greg Hyder, 22, 6'6", 215, C+, C-, D, C-, C+, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SF Willie Williams, 24, 6'7", 200, C, D, D, C, C, C<br>SG Moe Barr, 26, 6'4", 195, C, C, C-, C, D+, C<br><br>Bucks:<br>SF Bob Greacen, 23, 6'7", 210, C, D, C-, C, D+, C<br>SG Jeff Webb, 22, 6'4", 170, C, C-, D+, C-, D+, C<br>PG Marv Winkler, 22, 6'1", 170, C, C, C-, C, D, C<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PG Bill Zopf, 22, 6'1", 170, C, D+, C, C, D+, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Chaparrals:<br>PF Bobby Croft, 23, 6'10", 210, C+, C-, D, C+, B-, C<br>PF Bob Bedell, 26, 6'8", 205, C+, C, D+, C, B, C<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PF Gary Bradds, 28, 6'8", 220, B-, C-, D-, C, B-, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>PF Willie Davis, 25, 6'8", 234, C+, D, D-, C, C, C<br>SG Charles Beasley, 25, 6'5", 190, C, C, C, C-, D+, C<br><br>Warriors:<br>SG Levi Fontaine, 22, 6'4", 190, C, C-, D+, C, D+, C<br>SG Ralph Odgen, 22, 6'5", 205, C, C-, D, C, C-, C<br>PG Adrian Smith, 34, 6'1", 180, C, C, C-, C+, D+, C<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PG Al Attles, 34, 6'1", 180, C, D+, C, C, D+, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Trail Blazers:<br>PF Bill Stricker, 22, 6'9", 220, C+, D, F+, C-, C-, C<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PF Ron Knight, 23, 6'7", 215, C+, D, D+, C, B-, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>PF Walt Gilmore, 23, 6'6", 225, C+, D, D-, C, C+, C<br>SG Claude English, 24, 6'4", 185, C+, D, D, C, C-, C<br><br>SuperSonics:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PF Tom Meschery, 32, 6'6", 215, B-, C-, C-, C+, B-, C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>SF Barry Clemons, 27, 6'6", 215, C+, C-, C-, C+, C, C<br>SG Rod Thorn, 29, 6'4", 195, C+, C, C, B+, C-, C<br>PG Jake Ford, 24, 6'3", 180, C+, C-, C-, C, D+, C <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub123.ezboard.com/bfastbreakbasketballmessageboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=honny118>Honny118</A> at: 6/12/03 12:07 pm<br></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Vintage Basketball Association - a solo league from 1970
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:18 pm 
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<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Q's 1970-71 opening night roster:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>PF Tom Meschery, 32, 6'6", 215, B-, C-, C-, C+, B-, C<br>PF Gary Bradds, 28, 6'8", 220, B-, C-, D-, C, B-, C<br>PF Nate Bowman, 27, 6'10", 230, C+, D, D, C, B, C<br>PF Walter Banks, 23, 6'10", 205, C+, D-, D-, C, C+, C<br>PF Ron Knight, 23, 6'7", 215, C+, D, D+, C, B-, C<br>PF Greg Wittman, 23, 6'8", 210, C+, D, F+, C, C, C<br>PF Al Henry, 21, 6'9", 190, C, D, F+, C, C, C<br>SF Al Williams, 22, 6'6", 210, C+, D, D, C, C, C<br>SF Greg Hyder, 22, 6'6", 215, C+, C-, D, C-, C+, C<br>SF Vann Williford, 22, 6'6", 195, C, D+, D, C, C, C<br>SG Eddie Miles, 30, 6'4", 195, C+, B, C-, C-, C-, B<br>SG Mike Riordan, 25, 6'4", 200, C+, C, C-, A-, C-, A<br>PG Bill Zopf, 22, 6'1", 170, C, D+, C, C, D+, C<br>PG Al Attles, 34, 6'1", 180, C, D+, C, C, D+, C<br><br>As you can see, this team has nearly nothing left, except Eddie Miles, an veteren shooter from the Bullets, and Tom Meschery from the SuperSonics could contribute a bit to the Q's. Also, Mike Riordan has excellent potential rating, which I hope could turn into an useful player for the Q's. Except them, I have no plan to retain the current roster. Fortunately, being a new-born team, the Q's has 14.73M caproom, which would be very useful in the free agent market coming up.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub123.ezboard.com/bfastbreakbasketballmessageboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=honny118>Honny118</A> at: 6/13/03 12:33 am<br></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Vintage Basketball Association - a solo league from 1970
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:25 pm 
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The Q's depth chart:<br><br>C - Bowman, Banks, Wittman<br>PF - Bradds, Knight, Banks<br>SF - Meschery, Hyder, Knight<br>SG - Miles, Hyder, Williams<br>PG - Riordan, Zopf, Attles<br><br>IL - Henry, Williford<br><br>Offense Key Players - Miles, Meschery, Bradds<br>Pace - Normal<br>Trap - Sometimes<br>Press - Normal<br>Offense Focus - Balanced<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub123.ezboard.com/bfastbreakbasketballmessageboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=honny118>Honny118</A> at: 6/12/03 12:26 pm<br></i>


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:46 pm 
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<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Q's 1970-71 season summary (Day 1 to Day 20):</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Day 3 - The Q's clinched their first ever win in the franchise history at home by taking over the Cougars 100-82.<br><br>Day 10 - SF Greg Hyder out for 18 days due to fractured hips. He was placed in the IL and Vann Williford was activated.<br><br>Day 20 - The Q's is 1-16 (.059), and dipped into consecutive 14 games losing streak. Veteran PF Tom Meschery, who starts at SF this season, is the sole player who get relatively considerable stats: 15.9ppg+8.1rpg+2.6apg. Another veteran SG Eddie Miles has 13.8ppg. 4th year pro Nate Bowman, who starts at C, has 7.3ppg+7.0rpg.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Around the league:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>- New York Nets has the best record in the league (10-2) and Seattle SuperSonics leads the Western Conference by a 12-3 record.<br><br>- Rookie C Bob Lanier of the Pistons is both the POM and ROM. His stats is 33.0ppg+10.9rpg+4.8apg+2.1spg+2.4bpg. Lanier even got his first career triple-double after playing just 16 games.<br><br>- In day 14, the Bucks traded SG Jon McGlocklin to the Suns for PF Paul Silas. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub123.ezboard.com/bfastbreakbasketballmessageboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=honny118>Honny118</A> at: 6/13/03 12:34 am<br></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Vintage Basketball Association - a solo league from 1970
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:01 pm 
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<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Q's 1970-71 season summary (Day 21 to Day 40):</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Day 28 - SF Greg Hyder was returned to the team, Vann Williford was placed into the IL.<br><br>Day 40 - The Q's is horribly in 1-29 (.033), along with a 27 games losing streak.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :| --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/indifferent.gif ALT=":|"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> The next worst team in the league is the Carolina Cougars (5-23). Yeah, maybe you could remember that they had handed the Q's their only win so far this season. Tom Meschery still leads the team in scoring (16.2ppg) and rebound (7.7rpg).<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Around the league:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>- The Seattle SuperSonics leads the league with a 24-8 record, yet the hottest team now is the Atlanta Hawks (21-10). They are now in a 12 games winning streak.<br><br>- POM is Celtics' SG John Havlicek. His season's stats are 28.7ppg+7.2rpg+5.2apg.<br><br>- ROM belongs to another Celtic Dave Cowens (PF). His season's stats are 19.4ppg+10.4rpg. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub123.ezboard.com/bfastbreakbasketballmessageboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=honny118>Honny118</A> at: 6/13/03 12:34 am<br></i>


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 Post subject: Keep the updates going.
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I would be interested in the seed league you used to start this.

I think you used excellent house rules. I plan too copy them myself.


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Very nice read thus far. Hope this continues.

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 Post subject: Re: Keep the updates going.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:36 am 
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Kotan wrote:
I would be interested in the seed league you used to start this.

I think you used excellent house rules. I plan too copy them myself.


Agreed - awesome house rules. And I'd also be curious in the "seed" league (does that mean, what file Honny used to upload the retro stats to begin with?).

Hopefully with that tough start for the Q's, you didn't get dissuaded, Honny?


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